In this episode, Jonathan and Mark have an amazing (and surprisingly long) chat with Rhys Hora, a class of ’17 AT Thru-hiker and contributor at the online hiking blogging magazine The Trek. We discuss his experiences from his first dose of reality and amazing sights on the trail to his love of his hammocks and their clear superiority over tents, especially on the AT. They also have an interesting conversation about their first aid kits on the trail, and how they’re different for different purposes. Finally, We keep Rhys on to discuss the idea that it might be bad for nature to enjoy nature in the trending topics segment.

In our monthly segment, “Hanging Out with Gresh and Spiguyver”, the guys talk about food and different options on the trail.

Show Notes:

The video “As It Happens: Pacific Crest Trail” can be found by clicking on this link.

Here’s a site that you can use to rent a SPOT locator (you can google one too).

If you want to look at how TreeFool builds his first aid kit, here’s his web page on it.

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  1. Chris "Huey0328" Cordelle

    On episode #26 I’ve been binge listening the last four days. An have been entertained and enlighten. Hanging in Dutchware Chameleon, HG Under-quilt HG Journey Tarp and for now Snug 32° mummy bag. Getting back into the woods and trail after 20 year absence . Shug, Sintax77, Spyguyer just a few that inspired this 48 yr old veteran & retired police officer to get back up and going. An you two too.

    • Chris, Thanks for listening and thanks for your service. I’m using the Chameleon too along with a HG Topquilt that I just got, (love it). Tarp is a DIY from Ripstop By The Roll with doors, UQ is a DIY too, but thinking of upgrading to a HG or LocoLibre underquilt. I spend most nights just watching YouTube videos of the same guys you are watching or anyone else I can find. Getting into watching the thru hikers right now.

      • Christopher Cordelle

        Darwin on the trail not a hammock camper but cool for through hikers.

        All caught up on the podcast now just waiting for the next one.