This month, Jonathan and Mark chat it out with Lance Smith of the Outlan Channel, a YouTube channel and blog. Lance is an active vlogger, documenting his trips and activities hammock camping with friends and family. He also discusses using this platform for education, and speaks out strongly against lightweight “gear shaming”. After that, everyone discusses how they became hammock camping advocates in the community (hint: we love it!).

After the interview, Mark and Jonathan discuss getting out and what holds us back.

In the new segment, “Hangin Out with Gresh and Spiguyver”, the guys try to answer a listener’s question about women’s safety on the trail.

Show Notes:

If you’d like to see the boys’ destroyed tarp, check out Spiguyver’s video here.

If you’d like to check out or purchase the bombproof whisperlite, you can check it out here.

Click here to listen the Ladies’ Roundtable episode.

References for the Hangin Out segment:

  • Click here to read the Backpacker’s Magazine article about trail safety.
  • Click here to read the Adventure Journal article about trail safety.
  • Click here to read the Artemis Hikes article about trail safety.

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